Judges are not lawmakers. Confusion between the two is the source of much poor legal thinking these days.
Of course, if you’re talking about the majority of Californians who voted for Prop 8, then I agree with you. I’m against it. But they’re not lawmakers either, and the court’s ruling on this matter was sound.
You asked a question. But did you ask the RIGHT question?
The real question is, ‘why are you looking to politicians to validate you?’ The founding fathers separated church and state for a reason. Allowing the state to define or impose cultural values is what’s at the crux of this. When the state should be OUT of this.
Another one might be, ‘are you addressing what’s possible, and what really matters?’ I could give a shit less what the state says about my status. I want to be with who I want to be via my belief system, and to hell with immigration, the state or the feds. Piddle about identity while the bigger issue, that of REAL personal freedom, separation of church and state goes on.
I know, I know, I’m an old ranting fart. Stuff like this:
Supposedly, gender roles have been abolished. Supposedly, man and woman are equal.
So, why is man+woman not equal to man+man or woman+woman?
Is it because they can’t create a child together? There are plenty of validly married straight couples who cannot procreate for one reason or another.
I just can’t understand the logic behind any of this.
Um, to what “lawmakers” are you referring?
Judges are not lawmakers. Confusion between the two is the source of much poor legal thinking these days.
Of course, if you’re talking about the majority of Californians who voted for Prop 8, then I agree with you. I’m against it. But they’re not lawmakers either, and the court’s ruling on this matter was sound.
You asked a question. But did you ask the RIGHT question?
The real question is, ‘why are you looking to politicians to validate you?’ The founding fathers separated church and state for a reason. Allowing the state to define or impose cultural values is what’s at the crux of this. When the state should be OUT of this.
Another one might be, ‘are you addressing what’s possible, and what really matters?’ I could give a shit less what the state says about my status. I want to be with who I want to be via my belief system, and to hell with immigration, the state or the feds. Piddle about identity while the bigger issue, that of REAL personal freedom, separation of church and state goes on.
I know, I know, I’m an old ranting fart. Stuff like this:
http://fresno.craigslist.org/rnr/1190866404.html
..since a bunch really wants to ‘go down to Fresno and learn them folks’ some. Without having really thought it out.
Tho’ really, I can’t say that. Some of the elder statesmen [like Sir Elton John] *have*.
Supposedly, gender roles have been abolished. Supposedly, man and woman are equal.
So, why is man+woman not equal to man+man or woman+woman?
Is it because they can’t create a child together? There are plenty of validly married straight couples who cannot procreate for one reason or another.
I just can’t understand the logic behind any of this.